An Interview with Matt Diller from The College School
I love technology. I push buttons and get things to work. My biggest contribution to our learning community is to say, “uncertainty is perfect, uncertainty is exactly what we want.” I’m a 3rd grade teacher at the College School. There’s so much I can do with 3rd graders at the College School because we’re a thematically integrated and experiential school. For example, going on a campout is an opportunity not just to go camping but to learn about how to budget for things you need to buy, the foods you need to serve, you’re creating a menu, even collecting and organizing data about your classmates preferences, preferences about what they might want to eat, or what time they want to go to bed. There are all sorts of opportunities for children to survey their classmates, organize that data, and present that data with some sort of analysis or conclusion. Imagine a bar graph that says almost everybody wants to go to bed at 10 o’clock, and nobody wants to go to bed at 8 o’clock. It’s pretty compelling to see this bar graph and say, “well as you can see most of us want to go to bed at 10, but perhaps we can accommodate the people who want to go to bed at 8, by being quiet after 9, they can take a book to their tents with a flashlight and enjoy some peaceful time.” We coach them to analyze that data and present it in a way that it meets the needs of the people in their immediate community.
Being a part of the College School is being part of a learning community. We’ve often called the school “everyone’s garden,” we all “plant” something, and nurture something, and take care of it. We also have to take ownership. Along the lines of my place in the community as a teacher, and someone who believes that the school is my garden. I’ve always felt that ownership of the building and grounds of a place where every brick and every piece of mortar should scream out, “this is who we are!”
Wind Turbines were on the back-burner when we had two speakers, one from the Cloud Institute and also Josh Hahn, as presenters. They enthusiastically shared information about wonderful school projects that had composting toilets and solar energy and green buildings. During a presentation, a parent of a former student got up out of her chair and said, “Can we talk?” You know the school has asked me to consider some sort of beautiful sculpture to put in the front of the building. She was an artist. The school wanted something that people could see when they drove by. She was wondering if a wind-turbine could be beautiful.
She was very enthusiastic about making this happen. Before she left the school we looked at where a wind turbine might be, I showed her some pictures of some vertical axis turbines that are both beautiful but also have opportunities for research. In case you’re not familiar with the difference, a horizontal axis is like a pinwheel and a vertical axis is more like barbershop pole or an eggbeater. We were discussing this and she was on her way out, I could tell she was feeling a little bit in pain, as she was climbing into her car, and said, “Matt, I want you to keep going with this. But, I’m going through cancer treatment. I’m going to beat this thing. This will happen, go for it!” I never heard from her again; she got really sick. Then she passed away.
People ask me, “What is it about you that makes stuff happen?” I was trying to find the word. At first I thought it was hope, but then I thought you can hope all you want and nothing will happen. It’s something deeper than that, and I came to blind-faith. It’s this dumb naivety that I’m not smart enough to know that I can’t, so I just keep doing it. I always felt like there was someone behind me who had my back, and I just kept going. I also learned a few other tricks along the way. For instance I know that you have to be sort of a bulldog to make your dream come true, but you also have to be like the golden retriever, because if you’re an unlikable bulldog people will shut you down. You have to be a puppy bulldog in the sense that he’s persistent, but we like that about him. I have learned to say, “What if we did this?” “Could this be a good idea?” Those are consensus building questions. I’ve discovered that when I am at my best, I can allow someone else to take the dream and let the dream be theirs. That’s when things really start coming true.
I moved forward from the wind turbine concept after my meeting knowing that I needed to go to students and get their help to have the vision become realized. Students have their own charisma, and when a child can speak eloquently and passionately and be well prepared to answer question, tough questions, about a vision, there is nothing more compelling to an adult than that.
I said, “what if we had a wind-turbine?” “Would it work for our school?” “Or is it a bad idea?” I said, I don’t know, and you might have an idea of what you think you might predict, but would you be willing to look into the question even if the answer is no, no we looked into it, and no its not for us. And out of the 25 kids, there were 6 or 7 who said, “yeah, okay”. As we moved forward there were 5 who showed up, and they had to put in all of their efforts after school, or whenever they could squeeze in some time. They weren’t excused from class, or any of their school responsibilities. They had to be engaged in pursuing this question. I really thought it was important to set these kids up…. for failure. That may sound funny, but to be a risk taker you have to know that there is the hope that it might turn out a way that you desire but that you have to approach it with not such a deep attachment that you’ll be very disappointed if it doesn’t work, or if other people will shut you down because they feel that you’re not being realistic or considering the negative possibilities.
5 children presented a power point presentation to our building & grounds committee. Our business manager said “I’ve been to thousands of meeting, and I’ve heard thousands of power point presentations and that was the most compelling and moving power point presentation I’ve seen.” I think that it was the charisma of youth, that he just felt that these kids have a dream, they have been thoughtful, they’ve done their homework, they were prepared to take tough questions, they understand that it’s not a done deal, and that is more persuasive if they came super attached. So I was sort of sharing my experience with facilitation of a dream with them… to help them pick up some traits of leadership.
I really believe the curriculum at that point was leadership training. I was presenting the possibility of being agents of change in their community in future. We set up meetings with the school board. Then, set up a meeting with the Mayor with Webster Grove, not to get a permit, but to develop rapport. And the Mayor, Gerry Welsh, was moved as well. I could swear I saw a twinkle and Gerry’s eye that she saw the future leaders of our community in those students. She invited the building commissioner there, the committee for sustainability in our community of Webster Grove. They were all very supportive. There was this magic that was powerful beyond the mechanics of the wind-turbine and they helped to nurture it. The tenor was, “Let’s keep going with this, it’s going in the right direction, and everyone seems enthusiastic about this idea”
So there was always a feedback loop for keeping the adults involved, yet the students really felt that this was their project, that it was happening because of them. And it was. And yet you could say the exact same thing about me, it was happening because of me, it was happening because of the students, it was happening because of Sheila and Louise sitting quietly in the back room saying “we like what we see”. It was happening because of Gerry Welsh saying “you go girls!” It was happening because everybody was taking ownership of the dream; but it was still a small percentage of the whole school, probably a total of 30 people of a community of 300 people.
There were a thousand obstacles in this project. I told the students, as leaders you don’t have to be experts, a lot of times you just have to be visionaries constantly saying “Why not?” “What if?” “What’s next?” Asking those questions to the right people keeps the project moving. You have to really be creative in how you get those questions together, as closely together as possible and answer them sequentially, and then be able to ask “oh do you have any other questions?” “Could we go ahead and set a deadline for getting further questions so we can answer as many as possible and then move forward.”
It was also helpful to bring in outside advisors. The Cloud Institute was a catalyst. In hosting the Cloud Institute and having Josh Hahn as presenters we were able to bring two people into the room. Josh and the Cloud Institute began to ask us some really important questions: “What sense do you make of what you’ve heard and what we’ve shared in the last few days? What might be the low hanging fruit? What might you do in your life that will make the change towards sustainability in education that maybe was excited or stimulated or inspired by these last three days?” We went around the room and the entire faculty shared what they might do.
You really need to identify the objections quickly because otherwise people will sit in the back row and just as you’re about to move forward they’ll throw you out. It’s a dynamic that’s sure to happen in any environment and you have to be aware that that will happen and not be defeated by that, and just smile and say “great question, in fact if you have any more I would love to answer them for you.” If you can share that with people it really helps.
Now, the wind turbine is up. Now, the learning target is understanding the beauty of uncertainty in science. I was watching this show and he said, “When you’re on a journey of discovery, uncertainty is the name of the game. It’s essential.” Thomas Edison said, “I learned a thousand ways not to make a light bulb.” Now we’re in this wonderful phase of bringing people into the uncertainty of trying something. For example, we’re still not collecting data because we’re having troubles with the software. And we are working out the kinks so a year from now when it’s working perfectly, and we’re collecting data and sharing that data… we’re settlers. Then, there will be a whole new role for us to play.
I can say one piece of advice; anticipate problems. Then, channel these problems into opportunities so that you can say this is what our role is as a learning community. We are uniquely qualified as teachers to embrace these uncertainties and turn them into questions, and problems to solve, and to help others find comfort in what we discover. That’s truly the beauty of it. I can see in the future our role will evolve. Right now, it’s helping people embrace uncertainty.